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- Approved Agenda
- Joint X3T9.2 #70 and X3T9.3 #62 Meeting
- June 22-23, 1987
- Vancouver, British Columbia
-
- 1. Opening Remarks
- 2. Approval of Agenda
- 3. Attendance and Membership
- 4. Approval of Minutes - Apr Meeting in San Jose (X3T9.2/87-71)
- 5. Liaison Reports
- 5.1 IEEE P996
- 5.2 IEEE P1134
- 5.4 ISO
- 6. Joint Working Group and/or Project Status Reports
- 6.1 SCSI-2/IPI Differential
- 6.2 High Speed Channel
- 6.3 ESDI
- 6.4 SMD & Flex Final Edit Review
-
- 7. Document Distribution (separate sessions)
- 7.1 X3T9.2 doc dist 7.2 X3T9.3 doc dist
- 8. Review of Old Action Items
- 8.1 X3T9.2 8.2 X3T9.3
- 9. Separate Working Group and/or Project Status Reports
- 9.1 SCSI General (X3T9.2/87-80) 9.5 IPI/High Speed Channel
- 9.2 SCSI Scanners 9.6 IPI-2 Tape
- 9.3 SCSI Queuing (X3T9.2/87-59) 9.7 IPI Communications
- 9.4 SCSI Changers (X3T9.2/87-74) 9.8 IPI-3 Disk/Tape Rev 5A
- 9.9 IPI-2 Disk
- 10. Old Business
- 10.1 Review of SCSI-2 Section 8 (X3T9.2/86-109 Rev 1)
- 10.2 Asynchronous Event Notification (X3T9.2/87-52, -61)
- 10.3 REQUEST SENSE Response Identification (X3T9.2/87-60)
- 10.4 SCSI-2 Broadcast Capability (X3T9.2/87-61)
- 10.5 READ LOG Command (X3T9.2/87-43)
- 10.6 SCSI-2 Document Restructuring
- 10.7 Microcode Downloading (X3T9.2/87-7 Rev 2)
-
- 11. New Business
- 11.1 Working Group Agenda
- 11.2 Criteria for forwarding SCSI-2
- 11.3 SCSI-2 Editors
- 11.4 Immed bit in WRITE FILEMARKS and VERIFY (X3T9.2/87-88)
- 11.5 Must Initiators provide terminator power?
- 11.6 Miscellaneous issues identified on SCSI Bulletin Board
- 11.7 Review of new documents
-
- 12. Review of New Action Items (joint session, again)
- 13. Meeting Schedule
- 14. Adjournment
-
-
-
-
-
- Draft Minutes
- Joint X3T9.2 #70 and X3T9.3 #62 Meeting
- June 22-23, 1987
- Vancouver, B.C., Canada
-
- 1. Opening Remarks
-
- John Lohmeyer, the Chairman, called the meeting to order at
- 9:00 am, Monday June 22, 1987. Each of the attendees
- introduced themselves and stated their company affiliation.
- The attendance list was circulated with the standard
- instructions on membership.
-
- The 1988 service fees for principals and alternates has
- been increased from $175 to $200 and from $100 to $150 for
- observers. The Chairman pointed out that X3T9.2 receives
- none of this money for its operation -- it goes for the
- support of the X3 Secretariat's office within CBEMA. X3T9
- is planning to conduct an experiment in 1988 by charging
- still higher fees that would go to support X3T9.2 operation
- (copying and mailing expenses) The amount of the higher
- fees and the details of operation have not been decided.
-
- 2. Approval of the Agenda
-
- The agenda from the mailing was revised slightly and copies
- of the revised agenda were available at the meeting. A
- discussion of whether T9.2 and T9.3 could remain in a joint
- session for the whole meeting revealed that T9.3 planned to
- review the IPI-2 Tape document. A separate suite was
- arranged for this meeting, with Dal Allan chairing the
- session.
-
- Items 10.7, Microcode Downloading (X3T9.2/87-7 Rev 2) and
- 11.7, Review of New Documents, were added to the agenda.
- The agenda approved with these changes.
-
- 3. Attendance and Membership
-
- New members at the meeting were:
-
- Name Status Organization
- ----------------------- ------ ---------------------------
- Mr. Alan Ebright P Laserdrive
- Mr. Doug Mitchell A Laserdrive Ltd.
- Mr. Frank Krulc P NCL America
- Mr. Aki Komatzuzaki A NCL America
- Mr. Fred Berkowitz P Sun Microsystems, Inc.
- Mr. Paul Rikkonen A Sun Microsystems, Inc.
-
- The chair stated the attendance rules. No letters
- concerning non-attendance were sent since the last meeting
- (due to the meeting location and the Chair's lack of time),
- so there were no members "terminated" at the meeting.
-
- Enclosures (1) and (2) are the list of attendees for X3T9.2
- and X3T9.3, respectively. There were a total of 70
- attendees, 51 for T9.2, 9 for T9.3, and 10 for both
- meetings. Enclosure (3) is the changes to the X3T9.2
- membership list. Enclosure (4) is the current X3T9.2
- membership list.
-
- 4. Approval of San Jose meeting minutes (X3T9.2/87-71).
-
- The minutes were approved with no changes. The Chair noted
- that as a general rule minor changes to minutes will be
- reported in the minutes of the meeting that makes the
- changes, but the revised minutes will not be redistributed.
- Revised minutes will be placed on the SCSI Bulletin Board.
-
- 5.0 Liaison Reports
-
- 5.1 IEEE P996 - No report.
-
- 5.2 IEEE P1134 - Members who sent a diskette to Carl Warren
- received the first draft of the bios proposal document on
- the diskette.
-
- 5.4 ISO - Dal Allan reported that a mailing concerning the TC-
- 97/SC-13 meeting has been made, perhaps just to the
- editors.
-
- 6.0 Joint Working Groups
-
- 6.1 SCSI-2/IPI Differential
-
- Results of the test at National on the Madison Cable
- indicate 10 - 12.5 MHz may be possible on SCSI and IPI. The
- standard timings may have to change and the cable quality
- will have to be specified. Changing to ECL components may
- not be necessary. Fairchild is to report on their findings
- beyond 12Mhz at the next Working Group meeting. The SCSI
- tests were run at 50 meters.
-
- It was reported by Dal Allan that current-mode parts such as
- the 75108 and 75112 do not work correctly for this
- application. He stated that the IBM current-mode parts do
- work. Ed Caulkins will check on the IBM position concerning
- availability of these parts. Most of the work focused on
- voltage-mode RS-485 parts. The working group plans to
- prepare a report on their studies.
-
- John Lohmeyer stated that he is working on a timing model
- for SCSI arbitration. The model attempts to derive the SCSI
- arbitration timing parameters from the fundamental
- parameters (cable length, clock period, driver/receiver
- propagation delays). The purpose is to analyze proposed
- changes to SCSI. The model requires VP-Planner, or Lotus
- 123. He invited interested parties to examine the model for
- accuracy. He noted that while the current model does
- produce the SCSI arbitration timing values, he is aware of
- an error that suggests that our current numbers may need to
- be revised slightly.
-
- 6.2 High Speed Channel (HSC)
- The next HSC working group will be held on July 16-17 at
- Fairchild, 10400 Ridgeview Court Cupertino. Call Gary
- Murdock at (415) 864-6200 for details. No hotel
- arrangements have been made. The first half day will be
- devoted to high-speed differential issues. Copies of the
- minutes of the last meeting are available from Jay Ullal at
- (408) 732-2400. The document will not be available on the
- SCSI BBS due to its high content of graphical data. Don
- Tolmie is maintaining the mail list. Dal Allan called for a
- volunteer to be the secretary of this group.
-
- HSC has the following characteristics: 50 MByte/Sec modular
- increments in data rate (50, 100, 200, etc. MByte/Sec). The
- interface is being designed with a focus on eventual
- conversion to fiber optics, current requirements are for
- copper.
-
- 6.3 ESDI
-
- Rev 1.3 was distributed to the X3T9.3 membership. ESDI tape
- has been removed from the document, since there is not much
- interest in such devices. Also, ESDI tape is not
- architecurally consistent with ESDI disk. Only magnetic and
- optical disk are in current proposal. Gene Milligan moved
- that X3T9.3 accept X3T9/87-005 Rev 1.3 as the committee's
- working document for the ESDI project. Dan Banerje seconded
- the motion. The motion carried unamimously.
-
- Dal Allan proposed that X3T9.2 also distribute ESDI in the
- next mailing. The ESDI document should be reviewed
- carefully because a forwarding motion is intended at the
- next plenary meeting. The ESDI document will be available
- on the SCSI BBS with a separate message area (#16) setup for
- it. Copies on floppy disks are available from Dal Allan.
-
- A proposed recommendation from Jim Whitworth to include a
- command to permit setting sector sizes of greater than 4095
- was accepted.
-
- 6.4 SMD & FLEX Final Edit Review - No report
-
- 7.0 Document Distribution
-
- The document register has a new field called "Resolution",
- which has the status of the document in the Chairman's
- viewpoint. If any discrepancy exists please notify the
- Chair. The revised document register was distributed at the
- meeting. Enclosure (4) is the current document register.
-
- The following documents were distributed at the meeting:
-
- Document Doc Date Author Description of Document
- ------------- -------- --------------- ----------------------------------------
- X3T9.2/87-7 6/22/87 D. W. Spence Revised proposal for downloading
- Rev 2 microcode.
- X3T9.2/87-59 6/16/87 Queuing W.G. Command Queuing proposal for SCSI-2 (rev
- Rev 2 from 87-46, -49, 54)
- X3T9.2/87-76 6/18/87 P. Nitza Auto Sense and MODE SELECT/SENSE Target
- Rev 1 Option Proposal
- X3T9.2/87-77 6/20/87 P. Nitza INQUIRY Peripheral Device Type Proposal
- Rev 1
- X3T9.2/87-88 6/9/87 B. Spence Immediate bit in Tape WRITE FILEMARKS
- and VERIFY Comands
- X3T9.2/87-89 6/19/87 J. Patton Potential Flaw Management Problem
- X3T9.2/87-91 6/19/87 P. Nitza MODE SELECT Error Recovery Parameter
- Combinations
- X3T9.2/87-92 6/19/87 G. Stephens SCSI Interface Redefined Similarly to
- IPI Level 1
- X3T9.2/87-93 6/19/87 G. Stephens Sequential Access Device Position
- Definition
- X3T9.2/87-94 6/21/87 D. McIntyre REASSIGN BLOCKS revision
- X3T9.2/87-95 6/19/87 G. Stephens MODE SELECT Changes Causing a UNIT
- ATTENTION condition for Tape Devices
- X3T9.2/87-96 6/19/87 G. Stephens Revised Tape Model Text
- X3T9.2/87-97 6/22/87 D. Davies Clarification of Additional Sense Codes
- for BLANK CHECK
- X3T9.2/87-98 6/22/87 D. Davies Proposed Buffered Mode for Deferred
- Error Handling
- Copies of documents 92, 93, 95, and 96 from Gary Stephens
- were not available at the meeting. Electronic copies will
- be placed on the SCSI BBS and these documents will be
- included in the next mailing.
-
- Gary Robinson commented that possible variations for
- document distribution should be considered since X3 may not
- go along with the X3T9 proposal that is before X3. Typical
- mailing costs are running in the thousands of dollars. The
- fee may range from $100 to $350 per year, with a target of
- $300. Typical postage costs are $2.40 for under 2 pounds.
- Frequently, our mailings exceed this weight. If the X3T9
- proposal is not accepted at X3, then we must either get more
- volunteers or find a third-party organization to collect the
- money and make the mailings.
-
- 8.0 Review of Old Action Items
-
- 8.1 Gary Stephens will make a proposal to enumerate those MODE
- SELECT actions which will cause UNIT ATTENTION for
- Sequential-Access Devices. Complete. (X3T9.2/87-95)
-
- 8.2 John Lohmeyer will send a single-sided copy of SCSI-2 Rev
- 1 to Tony Lo for distribution. Complete.
-
- 8.3 Tony Lo will distribute SCSI-2 Rev 1 to the non-attending
- Principals and Alternates. Complete.
-
- 8.4 Jim Murphy will host a Scanner ad-hoc meeting April 29 at
- Dest. Complete (No report at the meeting).
-
- 8.5 Balu Balakrishnan will host a differential ad-hoc meeting
- May 14-15 at National Semiconductor. Complete (No report
- at the meeting).
-
- 8.6 Gerry Houlder will host a general working group meeting
- May 18-20 at the Airport Hyatt in Minneapolis. Complete.
-
- 8.7 Paul Nitza will prepare a proposal on INQUIRY 7Fh usage.
- Complete. X3T9.2/87-77 and X3T9.2/87-77 rev 1
-
- 8.8 Jim Semenak will include X3T9.2/87-68 (new density codes)
- in the next revision of section 9. Complete.
-
- 9.0 Working Group Reports
-
- 9.1 SCSI General
-
- See X3T9.2/87-80. The section 8 review was partially
- completed, but significant work remains to be done at next
- working group. John Lohmeyer has started the July working
- group agenda. Twenty items are carried forward.
-
- Tape Glossary Issue - comment from Bill Spence.
-
- There is a key problem, 1/2 inch tape uses EOT for
- what 1/4 inch tape calls early warning. Bill proposes
- to adopt the 1/4 inch standard using EOM and EOT.
- This issue needs to be revisited to develop a bridge
- in terminology between documents. Some changes in the
- documents could result. Bill was assigned an action
- item to work on the tape glossary.
-
- 9.2 SCSI Scanner - no report.
-
- 9.3 SCSI Queuing
-
- See X3T9.2/87-59 rev 2. Several concerns surfaced in
- Minneapolis. Four people subsequently met with Bob
- Snively to review those concerns. There is a proposed
- change to the messages for queuing. Several of the
- messages had their definitions enhanced. Two concerns:
- 1) The order in which the modifying tags are given (There
- is a preferance for the tag to come before the command,
- but it could come after). 2) Data integrity; how much
- responsibility does the O/S vs the controller have to
- insure the data integrity on the medium? The general
- feeling is that it is a software function. Restrictive
- protocols only solve some particular cases but still do
- not insure it, and there is an increased burden on the
- controller that may affect performance and may prevent
- other system solutions.
-
- The IPI queuing model should influence the SCSI queuing
- model so that they are similar. See action item 12.2.
-
- 9.4 SCSI Changers
-
- See X3T9.2/87-74. The base document has been prepared,
- however there is still much to do. Two changer models
- presented by S. Jones. The element address correlation to
- the SCSI ID appears ambigous and may need more work.
- There was more discussion on the architectural concepts of
- changers. The real issue is whether a more "logical
- level" command set makes sense. This item is on the July
- working group agenda.
-
- 9.5 IPI/High Speed Channel
-
- Don Tolmie brought a revision of his previous proposal.
- It was referred to the HSC Ad hoc meeting July 16-17.
-
- Bob Bellino sent a letter to Dal Allan expressing his
- pleasure at the results of the driver/receiver testing on
- the samples of his current cable. Bob has volunteered to
- build a pilot run of 5,000 feet if sufficient companies
- express an interest in purchasing it (to justify the cost
- of a special run).
-
-
- 9.6 IPI-2 Tape
-
- The document was reviewed and several comments on
- operation in Master-Slave-Facility configuration were
- made. Some, but not all of these were answered during the
- meeting, and others will require more work on the part of
- the editor.
-
- 9.7 IPI Communications
-
- Chuck Pheterson has responded to many of the comments made
- by X3T9 and brought one copy to the meeting for interested
- parties to comment on. He expects to have a completed
- document that can be ready for forwarding again before the
- end of the year.
-
- 9.8 IPI-3 Disk/Tape Rev 5A - No actions.
-
- 9.9 IPI-2 Disk
-
- Jim Luttrull submitted a proposal with a list of items
- which are either incorrect (editorial) in the standard and
- asked for clarification on some others so that there would
- be consistency in implementations where the standard does
- not specifically state what action to take. He also
- included material related to RPS extensions which
- complements the text of the standard and is suitable for
- inclusion as an appendix.
-
- A problem to be faced is that now the standards are
- published and the only revision activity is on the
- Physical Interface, there has to be some way to advise the
- world of changes, enhancements, corrections that are being
- made. The committee will establish a mechanism for
- addendums to be carried which can be used as the basis for
- an Errata to be provided by ANSI (and avoid having to wait
- until there is another revision of the standard).
-
- 10. Old Business
-
- 10.1 Review of SCSI-2 section 8 -- Remanded to working group.
-
- 10.2 Asynchronous Event Notification (AEN) - X3T9.2/87-52&-61.
-
- Paul Nitza, Gary Stephens, and Bob Snively had an extended
- discussion of AEN and deferred errors. Treatment of
- deferred errors needs to be specified (see X3T9.2/87-19).
- Paul Nitza suggested that the LUN 0 should always exist
- for processor devices, and other LUNs may exist according
- to the rules in 6.5.2. Gary Stephens suggested that the
- SEND Command should have a bit that indicates the data
- that follows is in the format of REQUEST SENSE data. More
- work is needed to clarify that AEN is optional. Bob
- Snively accepted an action item to generate rev 1 for next
- working group.
-
- 10.3 REQUEST SENSE Response Identification - X3T9.2/87-60.
-
- Paul Boulay's need for REQUEST SENSE data formats to deal
- with SCSI/CCS/SCSI-2 mixed command sets still needs to be
- dealt with. Greg Floryance would rather not support a
- separate command to switch between SCSI versions due to
- the limitations on ROM-based code. Bob Snively will
- undertake an action item to make a proposal on SCSI
- version switching.
-
- 10.4 SCSI-2 BROADCAST CAPABILITIY X3T9.2/87-61.
-
- Lou Edwards reported that Paul Boulay has decided not to
- pursue this proposal at this time in light of the changes
- it may require in existing protocol chips.
-
- 10.5 READ LOG COMMAND X359.2/87-43 Rev 1.
-
- Greg Floryance has revised this document to deal with the
- suggestions made at the last meeting. Further changes
- were suggested at the May working group and these will be
- incorporated in a rev 2 document for the July working
- group. One item has been posted on the SCSI BBS
- concerning over/under run counters that Greg would like
- comments on.
-
- 10.6 SCSI-2 Document Restructuring
-
- The May working group received a proposal from Ralph
- Schultz to break up the SCSI-2 document along the lines of
- the IPI document structure. Much discussion ensued at the
- May working group, but no resolution was reached.
-
- A motion to alphabetize commands within each device type
- passed unanimously. An action item was given to Larry
- Lamers to coordinate the update. The next revision is to
- merge group 0 and 1 commands within each device type.
-
- An experiment on removing change bars and using strike-
- outs and italics to indicate changes is being conducted.
- There was no opposition from the membership.
-
- 10.7 Microcode Download X3T9.2/87-7 rev 2.
-
- Bill Spence has revised his proposal from the comments
- received at the working group. A form of the WRITE BUFFER
- command is used to send the microcode to the target, with
- no requirements on the format of the data. A "save local
- copy" function has been added. A function was also added
- to load the code from removable media. An upload function
- was added to the READ BUFFER command to capture the
- microcode from the target. A lengthy discussion ensued
- with the following results:
-
- Delete items 5 & 6 on page 1.
- Pages 3-5 are of academic interest and are deleted.
- Delete the implementor's note.
-
- The remaining document was accepted for incorporation in
- SCSI-2.
-
- 11.1 Working Group Agenda
-
- The agenda includes all the new documents and the items
- identified on the SCSI BBS, as well as twenty items
- carried over from the prior working group.
-
- The agenda of the July general working group: Day one
- will review outstanding proposals minus the tape items.
- Day two will start with the review of section 8. If this
- task is completed, we will return to outstanding
- proposals. The priority of consideration is based on
- longevity. Tape items will start at noon of day three.
-
- See 13., Meeting Schedule, for the meeting location and
- dates.
-
-
-
-
-
- 11.2 Criteria For Forwarding SCSI-2
-
- There was a variety of suggestions on what should be
- included in SCSI-2 prior to forwarding it to X3T9.
- Paraphrased somewhat they were, "We should forward it as
- soon as my proposals are included."
-
- Gene Milligan has accepted an action item to generate a
- Project Proposal (SD3) for SCSI-3. This would allow the
- Task Group to continue work on those items that are not
- completed in time for SCSI-2.
-
-
- Jeff Stai moved that X3T9.2 establish the following
- schedule for the SCSI-2 document: 1) All technical issues
- on SCSI-2 shall be completed by the October plenary
- meeting. 2) A vote to forward the document is scheduled
- for the February 1988 plenary meeting. The motion was
- seconded by Skip Jones.
-
- Jim McGrath moved that the motion be amended as follows:
- 1) All technical issues on SCSI-2 shall be completed by
- the December plenary meeting. 2) A vote to forward the
- document is scheduled for the April 1988 plenary meeting.
- The motion was seconded by Bob Snively.
-
- 11 YES - 21 NO. Amendment failed.
- 30 YES - 5 NO. Motion passed.
-
- All new proposals should be submitted by the August
- plenary meeting.
-
- 11.3 SCSI-2 Editors
-
- John Lohmeyer stated that he had received a letter from
- John Hoy saying that due to an employment change he could
- no longer act as the editor of section 15. The following
- tentative changes (pending management commitment) were
- made to the editor assignments:
-
- Paul Nitza will edit sections 7 and 8.
-
- Larry Lamers will edit section 15 (and continue as general
- editor).
-
- Editorial schedule - The editors plan to have an editing
- session on July 16 and 17 following the July working
- group. Another session is being considered following the
- Wichita working group.
-
- Any person interested in editing should contact John
- Lohmeyer.
-
-
-
- 11.4 IMMED Bit on WRITE FILEMARKS & VERIFY X3T9.2/87-88
-
- There was no disagreement over the intended change in
- X3T9.2/87-88. It would allow the target to return status
- as soon as the CDB is received and parsed. The only real
- question was in how to word the description. Eventually
- the proposal was accepted with the word "received" changed
- to "validated".
-
- 11.5 Initiators Providing Terminator Power
-
- A proposal is expected from Steve Kappes of Interphase to
- allow external power (power other than from the initiator
- or target) for termination. Discussion is tabled pending
- the proposal.
-
- 11.6 SCSI Bulletin Board System (BBS)
-
- Attached to the agenda and the revised document register
- was a sample session on the SCSI Bulletin Board. This was
- included for tutorial reasons and because there were
- several messages on the SCSI BBS that the Chair felt were
- of general interest. John Lohmeyer briefly discussed how
- to use the BBS.
-
- Since many committee members do not have access to the
- BBS, proposals received on the BBS will be distributed in
- subsequent mailings. To have a document considered as a
- proposal it should be uploaded as a file with a message
- requesting John Lohmeyer to assign a document number. In
- addition, public messages which have significant content
- will be printed and distributed.
-
- Message #3 from Greg Floryance on what constitutes a READY
- condition -- The result of this discussion is that
- paragraph 6.1.3 has been changed to delete the
- paranthetical phrase "(after the logical unit becomes
- ready)" and a third condition is added to the list of
- thing that reset a target "or by a power-on reset".
-
- Message #4 from John Lohmeyer on whether a unit
- reservation followed by an extent reservation from the
- same initiator is permissible. Several people felt that
- this condition is covered by (or in any case, should be
- covered by) superseding reservations. John accepted an
- action item to review the wording of superseding
- reservations.
-
- 11.7 Review of New/Revised Documents
-
- X3T9.2/87-7 Rev 2 - Covered in item 10.7.
-
-
- X3T9.2/87-59 Rev 2 - Covered in item 9.3
-
- X3T9.2/87-76 Rev 1 and X3T9.2/87-77 Rev 1 - Added to the
- Working Group agenda.
-
- X3T9.2/87-88 - Covered in 11.4.
-
- X3T9.2/87-89 - Richard Hodson of Micropolis presented a
- document describing a potential flaw management problem
- using REASSIGN BLOCKS, including one possible solution.
- Skip Jones offered a specific proposal for a 12-byte
- TRANSLATE command. A more refined proposal is to be
- developed for the working group.
-
- X3T9.2/87-91 - Added to the Working Group Agenda.
-
- X3T9.2/87-92,93,95,96 - Added to the Working Group Agenda.
-
- X3T9.2/87-94 - Added to the Working Group agenda.
-
- X3T9.2/87-97,98 - Added to the Working Group agenda.
-
- 11.8 X3T9.2 and X3T9.3 Merger
-
- John Lohmeyer spoke to the issues of joint meetings and
- the attendant problems with document distribution. He
- stated that the joint meeting approach is difficult and
- that he would like to proceed with the merger. A single
- plenary meeting with the various projects largely
- developed in working groups is the proposed structure.
- There ensued a lengthy discussion on this topic, including
- issues of voting, agendas, ability to focus on tasks, and
- efficacy of meetings.
-
- Gene Milligan moved that X3T9.2 and X3T9.3 request of X3T9
- that they be merged into one task group to be known as
- X3T9.1 with the following general charter and general
- voting rules:
- 1) Development of peripheral subsystem interfaces
- including application as peer to peer interfaces including
- projects such as IPI, SCSI, and ESDI.
- 2) Votes to request project authorization and to
- take final action such as forwarding are to be by the full
- task group.
- 3) Votes to implement and/or change drafts are to be
- by attendees in split working sessions or the full
- committee in accordance with their previously designated
- area of interest allowing members, for example, to vote
- only in ESDI and no other interfaces if they so choose.
-
- This motion specifically requests that X3T9 attempt to
- implement the merger as of the August meeting and that
- they arrange with the X3 Secretariat to maintain John
- Lohmeyer as the Chair and Dal Allan as the Vice-Chair.
-
- Jeff Stai seconded the motion for both X3T9.2 and X3T9.3.
- Jeff moved that the motion be amended by deleting
- paragraphs 2) and 3). Bob Snively seconded the amendment
- for X3T9.2 and P. Nitza seconded the amendment for X3T9.3.
- The amendment passed in both Task Groups: 36 YES, 6 NO.
-
- Arnold Roccoti moved that the motion be ammended to strike
- the recommendation that the merged task group be called
- X3T9.1. Dave McIntyre seconded the motion. The motion
- carried: 30 YES, 3 NO.
-
- The amended motion is as follows:
-
- Gene Milligan moved that X3T9.2 and X3T9.3 request of X3T9
- that they be merged into one task group with the general
- charter to be the same as the charters of X3T9.2 and
- X3T9.3. This will include the existing projects of both
- task groups.
-
- This motion specifically requests that X3T9 implement the
- merger as of the August meeting and that they arrange with
- the X3 Secretariat to maintain John Lohmeyer as the Chair
- and Dal Allan as the Vice-chair.
-
- X3T9.3 voted 10 in favor - 6 opposed.
- X3T9.2 voted 27 in favor - 3 opposed.
-
- (Chairman's note: This motion received considerable
- debate at X3T9, where the motion was amended to include
- voting rules, again. The motion was defeated 6-7-1. A
- motion to separate X3T9.2 and X3T9.3 again with SCSI,
- ESDI, and Flexible Disk assigned to X3T9.2 and IPI, SMD,
- RDI, and HSC (if it becomes a project) assigned to X3T9.3
- passed unanimously. X3T9, as part of this motion,
- recommended that SMC solicit new officers for X3T9.3 as
- the Vice-Chair position is vacant and Gary Robinson has
- applied for the X3T9 International Representative
- position.)
-
-
- 12. Review of New Action Items
-
- 12.1 Ed Calkins will check on IBM position concerning
- availability of the IBM current-mode differential drivers
- and receivers.
-
- 12.2 The Queuing Ad Hoc will review the IPI model on queuing.
-
- 12.3 Bob Snively will revise X3T9.2/87-52 to include the
- comments from the June plenary meeting.
-
- 12.4 Bob Snively will prepare a proposal on SCSI version
- switching.
-
- 12.5 Larry Lamers and the section editors will revise the SCSI-
- 2 draft document to present the commands in alphabetical
- order.
-
- 12.6 Bill Spence will revise the EOT definition in the tape
- glossary with the assistance of Gary Stephens and Jim
- Semenak.
-
- 12.7 Gene Milligan will prepare a draft SD-3 for SCSI-3.
-
- 12.8 John Lohmeyer will review the unit vs extent reservation
- issue that he identified to determine whether superseding
- reservations adequately covers this situation.
-
- 13. Meeting Schedule
-
- The next meeting of X3T9.2 will be August 17-18, 1987 at
- the Clarion Hotel in Colorado Springs, Colorado [(303)
- 576-5900]. Please mention the "ANSI X3T9" meeting when
- making reservations to receive the special room rate of
- $75.00 for single occupancy and $85.00 for double
- occupancy (including tax).
-
- The plenary meeting schedule for 1987 and 1988 is:
-
- October 12-16, 1987 Saratoga Springs, New York
- December 7-8, 1987 San Diego, California
- February 22-23, 1988 Phoenix, AZ
- April 25-26, 1988 New Orleans, LA
- June 20-21, 1988 Vancouver, B.C. or Seattle, WA
- August 15-16, 1988 Denver, CO
- October 17-18, 1988 Boston, MA
- December 5-6, 1988 San Diego, CA
-
- (Chairman's note: The 1988 meeting locations were selected
- at the subsequent X3T9 meeting based on straw votes taken
- at the X3T9.2/3 and X3T9.5 meetings.)
-
-
- Working Group and Ad hoc meetings are scheduled for:
-
- General SCSI-2 Working Group meeting (See agenda, 11.1)
- July 13-15, 1987
- Irvine Marriot Hotel (714) 553-0100
- 18000 Von Karmon Reservations under:
- Irvine, CA 91715 "WD-SCSI Working Group"
-
- High Speed Working Group
- July 16-17, 1987
- at Fairchild Semiconductor
- 10400 Ridgeview Ct.
- Cupertino, CA
- Contact Gary Murdock at (415) 864-6200.
-
-
-
-
-
- General SCSI-2 Working Group meeting
- August 31 - September 2, 1987
- Hilton Inn East (316) 686-7131
- 549 S. Rock Road Reservations under:
- Wichita, KS 67207 "SCSI"
-
- General SCSI-2 Working Group meeting
- October 26-28, 1987
- Orlando, FL
-
- 14. Adjournment
-
- The meeting was adjourned at 5:00 PM on Tuesday June 23,
- 1987.
-